So, it’s over. This chapter of the Jeffrey Epstein saga, at least.
Ghislaine Maxwell has been convicted on five counts out of six charges that constitute hideous sex crimes against children.
She was reportedly emotionless as she heard the verdict.
The mystery is what is going on inside her head.
Ghislaine Maxwell in court for her trial on charges of sex trafficking, in New York City, on December 3, 2021. || JANE ROSENBERG / Getty
We never got to hear from Maxwell herself this whole trial. Her defense’s strategy was to undermine the credibility of the accusers, not to explain her narrative.
So I went back and looked over the transcript of my 2002 interview with Maxwell about Maria and Annie Farmer, the latter who so bravely testified a couple of weeks ago. It was the one and only conversation I had with her on the topic of Annie and Maria Farmer.
It’s very revealing because it tells us—in her own words—who Maxwell really is and what she values. (It also shows that she lied to me about not giving Annie Farmer a massage.)
Here, for the first time, is our conversation, which was transcribed from micro-cassettes by a professional transcription service. The only redaction is the name of an employee who worked at Zorro Ranch, Epstein’s home in New Mexico.